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CHRISTINE: I took
the tablets in the
evening, and I put
my best nightie
on and went to bed,
and I felt very
very sleepy very
quickly. I had put
my cat out, everything;
I'd written a note.
I'd tidied up all
my affairs as best
I could. I drew
the curtains and
went to sleep. The
next thing I knew
I woke up in the
infirmary with a
very sore stomach
and diarrhoea. It
was snowing that
morning. I realised
I was in hospital,
and I looked out
of the window onto
a building site
and thought, "My
God, isn't it beautiful".
Now this was a building
site with bricks
and cement mixers
covered in snow,
and I thought, "you
shouldn't be here
at all. What on
earth have you done?"
ANDREW: I began
to feel physically
rather unwell during
the afternoon, or
something like that,
and it was about
then that the phone
went and it was
a friend of mine
on the phone who
realised straight
away that I sounded
somewhat odd, let's
say, and she asked
what was the matter,
was I alright and
so on. I, in a sense,
said stupidly that
I had taken rather
a lot of pills so
she said, alright
I'll phone the doctor
immediately, but
obviously I didn't
feel it was fair
to land this on
somebody else so,
with resignation,
said, "alright,
I'll get the doctor".
DAVID: The situation
was that I'd gone
unconscious for
quite a while and
when I woke up there
was this brilliant
light, and everybody
talks about at the
last moment you
see this bright
light, and this
is it. This is where
you are going, except
that this bright
light was the sun
shining through
the window, and
there I was, still
alive, hating it,
and feeling a failure.
TOM: When I woke
up in my school
dorm next morning
it took about two
seconds to realise
I was still alive
and I burst into
floods of uncontrollable
tears. I was so
bloody useless I
couldn't even manage
to kill myself.
It felt as if something
had snapped; the
simplest decisions
became the most
enormous problems.
That morning it
took about half
an hour just to
get my socks on.
I can't tell you
how glad I am now,
many happy years
later, not to have
succeeded back then,
and tonight I'll
be talking to five
fellow survivors,
tracing the journeys
they too have made
from terminal despair
back to the everyday
business of living.
Tragically, every
year there are thousands
of successful suicides,
which usually devastate
whoever gets left
behind to pick up
the pieces. The
good news is that
God, Providence
or simply some inner
prompting causes
90 percent of those
who try, to fail
- giving them one
further chance to
face the music and
choose life.
LILY: I remember
of all the things
of that night lying
in this bed with
tubes and all sorts
of things going
on, and just seeing
my parents and thinking, "they certainly
wouldn't want it
to come to this".
I guess at that
moment I realised
that although suicide
could end for me,
so far as I could
tell, would end
for me what I was
experiencing, that
I considered so
absoultey unbearable
and filled me with
such despair, it
would end that for
me ... but it wasn't
an end and everybody
else in the whole
world continued,
and the effect of
my dying was really
not what I was trying
to accomplish in
the world; it was
what I was trying
to accomplish in
my own experience
- just to stop everything,
to cut everything
off, and it wasn't
going to do that.
TOM: Regaining the
will to live is
seldom easy or straightforward.
What our five survivors
and I had in common
was an utter loss
of self-esteem leading
directly or indirectly
to an attempt on
our own lives. Now
Self Esteem has
been bandied around
as a concept by
so many cosmic airheads
for so long that
it's almost meaningless
in everyday conversation,
but believe me -
it's real and it's
precious, as Christine,
David and Andrew
can all testify.
CHRISTINE: My self
esteem, obviously
when you are in
a suicidal state,
goes down to nothing.
You think you are
lower than an ant.
You feel dreadful;
You look at yourself
and think, "God
I'm ugly. I'm horrible." Everything about
you, your brain,
everything siezes
up. Your faith goes.
There's nothing
you like about yourself.
It's a horrible
experience.
DAVID: I really
wanted to die. I
didn't want anyone
to understand the
situation and talk
me out of it. What
it felt like really
- the only way to
describe it - is
that you're standing
face to face with
a brick wall and
behind you is another
brick wall closing
in.
You know Edgar Allen
Poe's 'Pit and the
Pendulum', it's
closing, and closing
and closing, and
you're being squeezed
and there's nowhere
to go. Someone once
described it as
a bottomless pit,
but it's worse than
that. It's a bottomless
pit that's full
of whatever it is
that's going to
drown you. I wanted
to go, but, again,
I just didn't want
any help. If someone
had said, "here,
put this needle
in your arm or whatever
and you'll go a
damn sight quicker",
yes, great, lovely,
I would have taken
that, and that would
have been the help.
ANDREW: If they
understand, and
very few do, that
is one thing. If
they don't, then
you are putting
a tremendous burden
on them and the
more that they refuse
to try to understand,
the greater the
gulf will become
and so you are pushed
further and further
into this state
of aloneness.
TOM: Now, maybe
you've never felt
like that, and maybe
you feel you never
will. But Christine's
despair was triggered
by external circumstances
that any of us could
face in the course
of a lifetime, it's
just that in her
case, they all occurred
at once.
CHRISTINE: I was
a mangager at the
time, I was married,
I didn't have any
children, I had
two cats, but I
was very happy.
I lived for my work,
and then all of
a sudden my life
changed completely
when my mother became
ill with terminal
cancer. She sent
for me on the eve
before my birthday
and said she couldn't
cope any more, would
I come up. I nursed
her for a month
and she died, and
the evening before
the funeral my father
had a heart attack.
He was taken into
the infirmary and
obviously was critically
ill. I coped with
the funeral and
everything on my
own. My husband
did come up for
the funeral, but
I think he was a
little bit jealous
of the time that
I'd spent with my
mother, and consequently
that put another
pressure on me.
My father then came
to convalesce with
me for l3 weeks
to get ready to
go back home to
live on his own,
and he had gone
back in the February,
and then in the
April my husband
then became ill
with kidney failure.
We then had to think
about dialysis three
times a week and
there was no return
from that.
TOM: So you had
three close personal
tragedies.....
CHRISTINE: Yes,
all at once. I had
no time really to
grieve for my mother's
death. I was on
sleeping tablets.
I couldn't sleep
at all without sleeping
tablets. I was totally
dependent on them.
I didn't want to
wash. I didn't want
to dress. I couldn't
make decisions.
I couldn't make
a decision about
what skirt to put
on. I was that miserable,
but I couldn't cry.
I told the doctor
this, and said, "I can't cry,
I don't know what's
wrong with me",
so he upped the
dose of tranquilisers.
I was like a zombie.
Every time I looked
in the mirror my
eyes were so black
with the drugs,
I could tell I was
zapped out. Then
I became anorexic.
I lost weight to
the degree that
I was about 7 stone
whet through; I
didn't want to eat,
smoked myself to
death, was pumping
these drugs into
myself like mad,
and one day the
fridge went wrong,
which is a minor
thing.
Somebody came to
repair it, it went
wrong again, I had
a fridge full of
frozen food. We
managed to distribute
it among the neighbours,
and eventually we
had a new fridge
freezer. My husband
went to collect
the food and when
he went I went outside
with a knife and
cut myself because
I didn't want to
live any more. I
had had enough.
This problem just
capped everything.
It seemed so big
I just wanted to
be out. And the
next thing I knew
I was in the infirmary
being stitched together
with my husband
standing over me.
He said, "why
the hell did you
do that?",
and I said, "don't
you know?",
and he said, "no,
I never thought
you would do that".
He was absolutely
disgusted that I
should even consider
that, and he said,
"you do realise
that I had to clear
up the mess, don't
you?" But I
can remember standing
there doing it and
thinking to myself,
"I am not here.
This isn't me. I
just want to destroy
myself", and
I didn't feel a
thing.
TOM: Once you came
out of the hospital,
and your husband
had been unsympathetic
in his response,
what happened next?
CHRISTINE: I felt
that nobody cared
at all about me,
including him, and
I suppose it would
only be a fortnight
after that that
I tried the second
attempt.
TOM: That second
attempt took place
when Christine's
husband was away
in hospital, and
she certainly would
have died had a
neighbour not noticed
her living room
curtains still drawn
at ll.30 the next
morning, and raised
the alarm.
When Mary first
tried to kill herself
she was the single
mother of two teenage
boys and had a drink
problem, which worsened
after she was raped,
despite the love
and support of her
sons and family.
When her father
died, she admitted
herself once again
to hospital in an
attempt to dry out.
MARY: I came back
out and I thought, "right I've
done it. This time
I wanted to dry
out; I haven't done
it for anyone else,
I've done it for
me, and everything's
going to be OK".
I went back to work
and I was back at
work two weeks,
and I was on my
way home from work
on a Friday night
and thought, "I'll
just call for one".
Anyone who drinks
out there has got
to know that it
happens. I'll just
call for one. And
I did. I had two.
And I really did
only have two. I
had no drink at
home, and I knew
I hadn't, and I
was really proud
of myself. I got
out of the pub,
got on the bus,
and went home. As
it happened my eldest
son was out, but
the youngest one
wasn't. He just
said, "you've
had a drink haven't
you? You couldn't
bloody well wait,
could you?"
He just turned round
and thumped holes
in the door. He
said, "you're
bloody useless",
and walked out in
a huff. I don't
know. I just sat
there and looked
at the walls and
thought, "yes,
you are useless.
You're just making
life harder for
everyone else".
And I just cut my
wrists.
TOM: Where were
you?
MARY: I was at home,
in the living room.
Then I think I decided
to write the children
a note - just "I'm
sorry, forgive me"
or something like
that - and then
because in the past
I've had one or
two physical illnesses,
I was on painkillers
of one kind or another;
they used to take
time to work, and
I used to ring the
Samaritans. My Mum
was a Samaritan.
I used to ring them
just to talk to
them, not because
I was suicidal,
just because they
were there. They
are really good
the Samaritans for
anything like that.
I rang them up and
just said, "I'm
not ringing you
up to tell you I'm
going to commit
suicide because
I already have done.
I just want somebody
to talk to while
I wait because I
need to get someone
to come and move
me before the children
come home".
And I explained
it all and this
guy was really nice
on the phone; he
was very laidback
about it all, obviously
very experienced
anyway. He said,
"and what are
your children going
to find when they
get home then?",
and I said, "what
do you mean?",
and he said, "well,
who's going to find
all the blood because
I presume there
is some". Then
it suddenly dawned
on me and I looked
and there was blood
everywhere; I couldn't
believe it.
I genuinely think
he was so experienced
that he just knew
that what was bothering
me was that the
children didn't
find me dead in
the living room,
and he realised
I hadn't even thought
of what reaction
I'd get if they
came home and found
blood all over the
place and me not
there, and nothing
to tell them where
I was, except a
note saying, "Please
forgive me, I'm
sorry".
I don't think I'd
ever seen my mum
cry before, and
she did that day.
It was devastating.
She just said, "how
could you? You're
special. You know
you're special.
How could you?" The boys had completely
different attitudes,
of course. The youngest
one felt really
guilty because he
was the last one
to see me. He had
shouted at me and
that was it. I spent
quite a lot of time
explaining to him
that what he had
said was the final
straw, not what
had caused me to
do it.
There was a lot
more behind it than
that. It was awful
afterwards because
then I had to see
his face and see
how he felt, which
must have been dreadful.
I mean it's an awful
thing to do to him.
I had to try and
explain to him that
it really wasn't
his fault, and knowing
he probably didn't
believe me. It was
very difficult.
The eldest son came
home and just shouted
at me and asked
me how I dared choose
if he needed a Mum
or not. Who made
it my decision?
He was really genuinely
quite angry with
me and told me it
was time I realised
that he loved me
very much and I
had no right to
take myself away,
and "just behave
yourself in future".
TOM: I'll never
forget my own Dad
reassuring me as
I lay in hospital
that he'd get me
back to my 'A' Levels
in no time. I think
I muttered something
callous about finishing
myself off properly
when I got out,
and was astonished
when he burst into
tears and sobbed
that he didn't want
to lose me.
"How could
you?" is the
inevitable question
faced by every survivor
of a suicide attempt.
Andrew, who suffered
from clinical despression
for many years,
has given the answer
plenty of thought.
ANDREW: When you
reach the state
of mind where you
make that decision,
then there just
isn't room really
for thinking about
other people. You
often hear it said, "didn't he
care about us at
all?" I think
that as the state
of blankness gets
worse, then slowly
but surely there
is less room for
thoughts which aren't
involved with your
own blackness until
it reaches the point
where there is no
room for any other
thinking at all,
and it's not a question
of selfishness,
shutting out - I
think it's the way
the mind works in
that context, and
of course the bystander
will say, "how
on earth could he
do that to his family?" If he had coldly
done it to his family,
that would be an
apalling thing to
do, but it is my
own experience that
there just isn't
one scrap of space
for thinking of
others because your
mind is so full
of your own blackness.
TOM: The selfishness
of suicide is a
home truth which
few survivors can
bear to hear, at
least at the time.
Christine was still
recovering in bed
when she was visited
by the psychiatric
nurse.
CHRISTINE: "How
could you do this?"
This is a psychiatric
nurse, remember.
"How could
you do this to your
husband and father?
You're so selfish".
That was a psychiatric
nurse.
TOM: Do you think
now though, looking
back years later,
that it was selfish,
or do you think
it was justified?
CHRISTINE: I think
it was absolutely
selfish really.
It was cruel, but
you don't realise
you are being selfish.
LILY: My parents
came in, and it
was this horrible,
you know, greenish
light of a hospital
and there were my
parents, looking
half dead themselves.
That really struck
me. Seeing their
faces, and realising
that they had both,
from their separate
homes, driven all
night to see, you
know to come, and
not know if I was
going to be alive.
That was awful.
TOM: Did you come
to some realisation?
LILY: At that point,
seeing how upset
they were, I think
I recognised that
I had to be pretty
serious about wanting
to die to not care
at all about the
effects it would
have on other people,
and I knew that
wasn't actually
how I felt. I think
when I saw my parents'
faces I really recognised
that I was a piece
of something bigger
than just my own
little l6-year old
life, and I suppose
it made me a feel
a little more strongly
about what people
saw as me. I don't
think I ever felt
that anyone hated
me or anything,
but I thought, "what
difference does
it make?";
all the sort of
typical things that
go through your
head - "who
really cares if
I am not here anymore?" All that sort of
thing. I realised
that people did
care, that I did
have a contribution
to make. I didn't
know what it was
yet - other than
being their kid
and somebody's sister
- but I did have
a contribution to
make and I should
give myself the
chance to find out
what that was going
to be.
MARY: One of the
things that actually
stopped me doing
any more, and I
must admit this
has probably had
a major effect on
me, was one of the
nurses - and I don't
know who it was,
I can't remember
who it was - said
to me, "what
would you do if
your Mum came in
here tomorrow and
told you that your
youngest son had
just committed suicide?"
I said, "Oh
God, no don't".
I just couldn't
bear to think about
it. And she said,
"well, that's
what your Mum's
been going through.
Can you really put
her through this
again? Are you going
to try again because
this is what you're
doing". And
I really saw that
I hadn't thought
about it - how I
would feel if one
of my children tried
to commit suicide.
And I only blame
myself for everything
now; God knows what
I would have felt
like if they had
done that. So I
didn't do it again.
I never tried to
commit suicide again
after that.
TOM: For all my
fellow survivors
the long slow haul
to recovery began
with a sense of
connection with
others - being part
of something wider
than ourselves,
and of having a
contribution still
to make. For David
it also involved
a surrender. Ten
years ago as an
insurance salesman,
he cracked under
the combined pressures
of work and the
need to provide
for his family.
Two attempts to
end his life led
to a spell in hospital
which didn't help;
he lost his job
and came home a
broken man.
DAVID: I came home,
no job, no anything.
Very understanding
wife. I said, "what
are we going to
do?" Basically
it came down to,
"we'll just
have to start again".
I was on long-term
sickness - invalidity
- benefits because
I was off for so
long.
TOM: Was she angry
with you?
DAVID: Yes, naturally.
TOM: And the kids?
DAVID: Yes, the
kids treated me
as a stranger. You
know, - what's my
Dad done this for?
TOM: Can you talk
about it with them
now?
DAVID: Not a great
deal, no. Nobody
wants to talk about
it, nobody at all.
How do you say to
somebody, "I
want to talk about
when I nearly wasn't
here"?. How
do you bring that
up? If ever there
was a conversation
stopper, that is.
It's like throwing
a bucket of cold
water in the middle
of a good party,
a rave-up, and why
should you burden
them with your problems?
That's what you
begin to think.
The only people
were those in the
hospital, or the
people who had done
a similar thing.
The funny thing
was, I have no religious
beliefs at all,
but it was a local
rector who came
to see me. Somebody
in the parish had
said, "we've
got one of our neighbours
up in the hospital".
He came to see me
and that started
a connection, funnily
enough, which I
think put me back
on my feet because
they were starting,
I suppose you'd
call it these days,
a 'drop-in' centre
and I volunteered
my services, and
I reckon that put
me back on my feet.
But even when the
opportunity of a
job arose I didn't
feel I could work
full time. I was
almost a broken
man. I just didn't
feel I wanted responsibility
any more. To a point
I still don't. I
feel guilt because
my wife works full-time
and she is the one
who is the main
breadwinner, when
really, in the old
way of looking at
things, I should
be the main breadwinner.
TOM: It's interesting
though, isn't it,
because you are
now in a situation
where your wife
is the breadwinner
and you are able
to soft pedal and
not be under that
pressure. Do you
think maybe if only
you could then at
the beginning have
just said to your
wife, "I've
got to pack in my
job, can you take
over?", do
you think that might
have actually taken
that off and you
wouldn't have had
to go through all
that?
DAVID: Probably,
but how do you ask
a wife to burden
the responsibility
of a husband? I'm
of an age where
I still hold doors
open for a lady;
I walk on the outside
of the pavement.
I still, to a point,
feel a failure because
I am the male. I
should be the one
bringing in the
money - not relying
on my wife to do
it. In the future
my position may
never arise, but
you've got to educate
people of an older
age group to come
to this idea.
TOM: That's right,
because, like you
say, it would have
been hard on your
wife to turn to
her in those early
days and say, "I
can't cope, please
will you find a
job and take over",
but think how much
easier it would
have been on her
than having a husband
go through two suicide
attempts, all the
depression, - you
actually put her
through far more
by not asking her
to take the burden.
DAVID: I agree.
I can look back
on it now and see;
I mean she has been
an absolute brick,
but I couldn't feel
that at the time.
TOM: But ten years
on you've let go
of that kind of
insane ideal, and
been living far
more happily for
ten years as a result.
DAVID: Yes, living
a much more fulfilled
life. I've realised
that I don't have
to be macho man.
I don't like football,
and so what? It
doesn't matter.
I detest football.
TOM: And your wife
still loves you.
DAVID: More than
ever. That's the
wonderful thing,
and a totally different
lifestyle has made
it such that it's
much more, much
more fulfilling,
much happier, much
less stress. What
we do have now pleases
my wife to a point;
she'd still like
to go back to a
part-time job, but
what she enjoys
is coming home to
a cooked meal! You
see I do the shopping
and I do the cooking,
and I enjoy cooking
which is something
I didn't do before.
But I can't tell
my wife, "altogether
I'm glad you're
working full-time;
I'm glad you're
out there; I don't
have to worry about
it."
TOM: A change of
viewpoint and the
love of an understanding
partner were enough
to give David back
his vigour and humanity.
For myself it was
the discovery that
'A' levels and heterosexuality
were strictly non-essential
for a happy and
fulfilled life.
But for others,
like Andrew, fighting
the suicidal urge
is part of a longer,
harder struggle.
The dark spectre
of his mental illness
was responsible
for his last attempt.
ANDREW: It was in
August '86, so that's
really 8 years ago,
and there were quite
a lot of further
very black periods
in the interim,
and in each of these
black periods this
question again of
calling it a day
always comes up.
There is nothing
sinister about that.
That is an ordinary
part of being severely
depressed. I think
one of the very
sad things is that
you have cancer,
or say you have
a stroke and you've
got to learn to
re-use your arm
or whatever it is,
and the world and
his wife are so
sympathetic, and
they'll do all sorts
of things to help
and so on, but you
have mental illness,
and people either
don't want to know
or they think you're
a lazy so and so
or whatever it is.
Mental illness doesn't
exist. It's the
state of your own
mind, and all you've
got to do is stop
being sorry for
yourself.
TOM: Snap out of
it.
ANDREW: Snap out
of it, and stop
being so sorry for
yourself. If it
were as simple as
that, you wouldn't
be spending how
many - I've spent
nearly two years,
not all at once
in a mental hospital
- do you think I
did that by choice?
I was on a severe
disablement allowance
for a long time
because of the state
of mind. Did I do
that by choice?
It is the lack of
understanding and
the attitude of
so many who just
'pooh pooh' the
whole idea of there
being an illness
such as a mental
illness, that makes
the task of the
person suffering
many many times
harder.
CHRISTINE: I went
to see a lady psychiatrist
who I used to work
with, and she talked
to me for an hour
and a half. She
said, "I can
understand you want
to go back to work;
all that's wrong
with you is that
you've got a heap
of worries that
need sorting. You'll
be able to do that
in time, but I'll
recommend that you
go back to work,
and I'm going to
write to your GP".
I could have kissed
her feet.
And I did go back
to work, and that's
when I started to
recover, but I was
working again in
the psychiatric
hospital, and I'd
been back at work
three months and
I said, "I'm
not having this
any longer" - you see I got
a bit of strength
from somewhere -
and I applied for
another job and
got it. Now I did
that myself. My
strength came back.
Gradually, not all
at once, gradually,
I wanted to sort
my life out. I found
as I began to sort
it out, so I attracted
new friends, some
of my old friends
came back, I started
to laugh again,
which I had forgotten
how to do, and I
started to believe
in, not God exactly
because I wouldn't
say I believe in
God as a thing,
but in spiritual
things, again. My
faith came back,
and everything has
progressed from
there.
TOM: Did your relationship
with your husband
improve?
CHRISTINE: Yes.
But then it would
do because I wasn't
negative anymore,
and the more positive
I became, the more
I could do for him,
and the easier I
could make life
for the pair of
us. It's increased
my workload tremendously.
It's not easy doing
a full-time job,
looking after somebody
who is terminally
ill, and coping
with everything
else, but I'm enjoying
it.
TOM: How long ago
did all this take
place?
CHRISTINE: Oh dear,
- two years ago.
TOM: So you are
still really emerging
from the forest?
CHRISTINE: Yes.
I've got through
the forest, but
it was exactly that
- like coming through
a dark, dark wood
and out the other
side.
TOM: Has the experience
changed you?
CHRISTINE: Completely
and utterly. I'm
stronger now than
I was before and
everything I've
touched this year,
which is strange,
has gone well.
TOM: Christine's
realisation that
she was far from
helpless - she had
choices and could
affect her own destiny
for better or worse
- has helped her
finally turn the
corner. Lily, too,
came to the same
realisation while
at expedition school,
travelling around
remote parts of
the United States.
LILY: One of the
main premises of
this expedition
school is that the
students decide
by consensus what
they are going to
do. There is a certain
amount of course
work they need to
do, but they travel
around the United
States and Canada,
and basically say, "OK, today
we are going to
the Grand Canyon
to study geology",
and I decided to
go on a short version
of it in the summer
to the south western
United States -
basically to the
deserts and the
mountains. And that
was wonderful, and
I think that's where
I started to really
shed the selfishness
I'd been living
with and see that
there's so much
more out there.
Physically, I actually
remember this moment
when I saw the horizon,
and the horizon
was just so huge
out west, and I
thought, the world
is much bigger than
I thought it was,
and everything wasn't
so close around
me.
I think it was fairly
symbolic because
I felt like my eyes
had to adjust, and
my brain had to
adjust to this amount
of space and this
amount of nature
and this very fragile
relationship between
people and the desert,
and seeing my impact
with everything
I did - and recognising
you can't be bulimic
in the wilderness,
was one thing -
you can't kind of
abuse food and find
a toilet all the
time. I remember
at first people
kept saying things
like, "you
are part of the
planet". This
was said over and
over by one person
in particular, and
I sort of thought
"that's very
nice" and kept
ignoring it. I do
remember much in
the way people talk
about a religious
moment of seeing
the light - I do
remember this moment
when that clicked.
I thought, "I
really care about
the environment;
I care about the
planet. I am trying
to treat the planet
well, but I cannot
do that if I am
not going to treat
myself well, and
everything sort
of fell into place
after that.
ANDREW: As I spent
more and more time
in mental hospital,
I began to realise
that other patients
found me somebody
they were very happy
to talk to, and
I think it was possibly
this that suggested
that maybe I did
have a role to play
in life, and I think
that's a very important
key. It's no good
just filling in
your days; you have
to feel you are
a contributory member
of society, and
I wonder if that
was something to
do with the turning
point. It may have
been the whole turning
point, I don't know.
I think - and this
is over-simplifying
things far too much
- but I think basically
it turns on the
belief in oneself,
and it doesn't mean
to say your role
in life must be
one whereby you
help other people,
it's one where you
can regain your
self-respect.
TOM: Andrew's illness
is now in remission
and he once again
feels like the man
he was 20 years
ago, yet his recovery
remains fragile.
Mary too is slowly
winning her battle
with alcohol, helped
by a new husband,
himself a former
patient, whom she
met in hospital
while at her lowest
ebb.
MARY: I can remember
how I felt; it hasn't
gone and there are
times still when
I get down that
I can remember the
spiral and how it
works; you can go
down and down and
there's no way out.
But now Adam's always
there.
TOM: What was it
about Adam's love
and support for
you that made it
possible for you
to accept that and
believe it in the
way you couldn't
from your own family?
MARY: He accepted
me as I was. Everything,
warts and all. I
was still an alcoholic
when I came out
to Adam, and I was
out to prove I was
as well. There was
no way it was going
to be any easy option
- I drank seven
days a week when
I first came out
just to prove that
I could. I was dreadful.
And he never said
anything. He just
let me do it - until
I ran out of money.
If I wanted to eat,
the food was there.
If I didn't, then
I didn't. Eventually
I found I didn't
need to drink any
more; I've actually
stopped drinking
believe it or not
- I can't believe
it yet because it
hasn't been very
long.
TOM: How long is
it?
MARY: About two
months, three months.
TOM: That's good.
MARY: It's a hell
of a long time for
me, and this is
not just stopping
drinking and saying, "I want a drink,
but I'm not having
one", this
is, "I don't
want a drink".
I had a glass of
wine, I don't know,
last week some time,
and I didn't want
to drink another
three bottles. I
just had a glass
of wine with a meal.
And it seemed normal.
It's impressive.
I don't know how
this has happened;
I think it's just
total acceptance.
It's love and acceptance
all mixed up together,
- and not judging
people. I still
have feelings of
guilt about the
children. I am better.
I think I've done
the worst things
I could ever do.
I think I've hurt
people as much as
you can hurt them.
I'm not l00 percent.
I don't know who
is, but I'm not
as bad as I was.
TOM: Brave and cheerful
words to end this
programme. Of course,
none of us are ever
l00 percent, but
we stumble through
and sometimes life
is sweet. So if
you now, feel like
I did then, for
God's sake don't
wait until the black
day finally dawns
when you try to
end your life. Pick
up the phone now
and get some help.
All my fellow survivors
tonight have enjoyed
years we never thought
to see - just remember
the joy in David's
voice as he laughed
about cooking for
his wife - when
ten years ago nothing
on earth could have
induced him to live.
As T.S. Eliot said, "People change,
and smile".
LILY: I still end
up at dead ends.
I still end up feeling
very much like this
isn't where I am
meant to be, but
I recognise that
all through my life
all my successes
and failures have
been my own choice,
and I continue to
not feel embarrassed
and ashamed of having
tried to commit
suicide and of having
really difficult
times. But I do
feel that they were
instruments to get
me back to finding
out what's important,
what will always
be important no
matter what you
do in your life.
At a philosophical
level, what you
are really doing
is taking control
of your own destiny
and that's the most
important thing
- that is absolutely
the thing that saved
me - that you can
actually sit down
and say, "I
don't want to be
here. What does
that mean to me?
OK, I don't want
to be here in this
place, this building,
this relationship,
this family, this
school, this job".
Well, make some
part of that change,
and try and do it
in a way where you're
not going to cut
yourself off from
everything, but
to support yourself
in some way. I think
that's the main
thing.
MARY: Just stop
for a moment to
think of the person
nearest to you,
in a way, or the
person you feel
most responsible
for perhaps, and
think how you would
feel if they did
it, and you were
the one that survived,
because it can be
a lot harder for
the person that
survives than for
the person who dies.
I'm not going to
say it's the coward's
way out because
I don't believe
it is. I think it
takes a lot of courage
to try and commit
suicide, and I'm
not saying that
because I did it.
It takes courage
both ways - it takes
courage to commit
suicide, and it
takes courage to
live. But just try
and think what effect
it is going to have
on somebody close
to you, and see
then whether it's
worth it, and which
is the most courageous.
ANDREW: There is
a huge joy, as far
as I'm concerned,
that I failed on
that second occasion
because I have found
what I hope will
be the path to a
contributory role
in life, and I would
never have found
that if I'd succeeded.
I once saw something
or heard something
or saw it written
down somewhere which
was simply called
'the question of
suicide'. And all
it said after that
was, 'it is not
an answer, it is
much better left
a question', and
I think that's very
true indeed.
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